Big Vert comparsion: first vs second time through

As the table below shows, I did a lot more training in my second run through of the Big Vert plan.

Exactly:

  • 46% more vertical gain
  • 18% more distance
  • 32% more time running
  • about the same amount of muscular endurance (ME) sessions
  • twice as many Z3 sessions
  • over six times as many hill sprint (HS) sessions

But did it prepare me well enough for my race (the Ultra Pirineu, 100 km and nearly 6000 m+)?

Yes, definitely!

  • I finished in a time within my target range, which admittedly was broad given I hadn’t done a race this long before.
  • I felt strong throughout, even at the end, running well on the last downhill and flat bits.
  • I recovered quickly afterwards.

The plan itself, forgetting the races it successfully prepared me for both times, has also taught me how to train for hilly events and get used to doing lots of climbing.

What’s next?

I’ll probably use a hybrid of the Big Vert plan next year to prepare for similar or the same races, varying the terrain and adding in elements from Fast After 50 by Joe Friel, which gels pretty well with the Uphill Athlete philosophy.

I plan to do four-week cycles with one recovery week, one vert week (the most elevation gain), one flatter week (the most distance) and one mixed week (in between the vert and flatter weeks in distance and metres climbed).

Why mix up the terrain?

First, I want a bit of variety. I like running on the flat! And not just for recovery runs.

Second, I want to make sure I continue to develop or maintain my running economy and form, and you can only do that (I think) with some more intentional flat running.

The Big Vert plan was great for adapting my body to handle lots of elevation gain. But I don’t want to be doing that kind of training forever, even if I’m only preparing to do hilly ultras. Actually, especially if I only do hilly ultras! In that case, I’d never get to run on other terrain and at other paces. My running would become one dimensional. Not something I can afford given the meandering paces I go at even when in top shape!

If I keep up the ME, hill sprints and other strength stuff, I should be able to get enough climbing stimulus in the varied four-week cycle to not fall apart on race day. And I’d do more climbing in the last two months or so before the race, especially in the race-specific long runs.

2 responses to “Big Vert comparsion: first vs second time through”

  1. The Amble Rambler Avatar

    Ive just begun my second time round the Big Vert, having got half way through the first time round before having a bad fall and cracking a knee cap. So, this time I tend to agree with you, as an older and back of the pack runner, Im thinking of putting in more cross country trail weeks near the begining of the plan with a bit less vert to begin with. Then upping the vert gradually to the 70% week end totals. I'm hoping this will allow me to get more out of the ME and hill sprints, whilst allowing me to maintain the hours of training required.

  2. Rob Avatar

    FWIW, this year I did similar ultras with far less elevation gain in training on a weekly basis and things turned out fine, and I felt like I could run faster throughout the year.

    I did more flat-running training, some hill sprints, no ME but lots of pure strength training (heavy weights, low reps). I did just fine in the ultras (an hour faster in one and didn't finish another but because I went out way too hard and well above what was possible for me, not because I wasn't prepared, I felt strong).

    As far as vert training went, I tried to do race-course like long runs once a month.

    This type of training was much easier and fun (for me at least) as it meant fewer but longer more adventure-style long runs with less of a weekly grind of pumping out a certain amount of metres gained per week. So I'm sure it will work for you too.

    I've come to the conclusion that the Uphill Athlete style training makes you a slower runner (something us average older runners can't afford). I've found I can prepare myself just as well with less vert, more fast running and pure strength training 2 to 3 times a week.

    Cross-country running is great! I did a race a few weeks back and hope to do few more.

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